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seriously. the first ever Hindu blessing in the US Senate and this is what happened:
www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/0...73.html
for the video.
more story here:
electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog...enate
OUCH.
the irony, of course, if you listen to what the pundit was saying, was an ancient passage from the Upanishads, an English translation of
asatho maa sad gamaaya
tamaso maa jyothir gamaaya
mrithyor maa amrutham gamaaya
which is, “lead us from ignorance into truth, from the dark to the light, and from death to immortality.”
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Fri, July 13, 2007 - 4:50 AMNAMASTE
I read that just yesterday on hinduism today and could not even think this could be so. Being the first blessing in the US
Senate and then getting protests just sad. Shows how the senate is not open to all faiths and people as they would love all to think. I did many prayers last night after reading about this that may this open the minds and hearts to more people.
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Fri, July 13, 2007 - 4:53 AMNAMASTE
Hindu Prayer in U.S. Senate Disrupted
www.washingtonpost.com
WASHINGTON, D.C., July 12, 2007: (HPI note -- We present today a series of articles on the opening of the United States Senate with a Hindu prayer by Rajan Zed of Nevada. Leaders of various religions have delivered the Senate prayer, but this was the first by a Hindu. Astoundingly, it was interrupted by shouting Christian protesters from the Senate gallery, resulting in widespread news coverage to an event that might have otherwise gone little noticed.)
A Hindu clergyman made history Thursday by offering the Senate's morning prayer, but only after police officers removed three shouting protesters from the visitors' gallery. For a video of the disruption and prayer (English version of the Gayatri Mantra), click here (note the CNN video begins with a commercial).
Rajan Zed, director of interfaith relations at a Hindu temple in Reno, Nev., gave the brief prayer that opens each day's Senate session. As he stood at the chamber's podium in a bright orange and burgundy robe, two women and a man began shouting "this is an abomination" and other complaints from the gallery.
Police officers quickly arrested them and charged them disrupting Congress, a misdemeanor. The male protester told an AP reporter, "We are Christians and patriots" before police handcuffed them and led them away.
For several days, the Mississippi-based American Family Association has urged its members to object to the prayer because Zed would be "seeking the invocation of a non-monotheistic god."
Zed, the first Hindu to offer the Senate prayer, began: "We meditate on the transcendental glory of the Deity Supreme, who is inside th e heart of the Earth, inside the life of the sky and inside the soul of the heaven. May He stimulate and illuminate our minds."
As the Senate prepared for another day of debate over the Iraq war, Zed closed with, "Peace, peace, peace be unto all."
Zed, who was born in India, was invited by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev. Speaking in the chamber shortly after the prayer, Reid defended the choice and linked it to the war debate.
"If people have any misunderstanding about Indians and Hindus," Reid said, "all they have to do is think of Gandhi," a man "who gave his life for peace."
"I think it speaks well of our country that someone representing the faith of about a billion people comes here and can speak in communication with our heavenly Father regarding peace," said Reid, a Mormon and sharp critic of President Bush's Iraq policies.
Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, said the protest "shows the intolerance of many religious right activists. They say they want more religion in the public square, but it's clear they mean only their religion."
Capitol police identified the protesters as Ante Nedlko Pavkovic, Katherine Lynn Pavkovic and Christan Renee Sugar. Their ages and hometowns were not available.
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Fri, July 13, 2007 - 4:55 AMNAMASTE
Hindu Prayer in Senate Draws Religious Protesters
WASHINGTON, D.C., July 12, 2007: (HPI note: This Reuters report contains some additional information, given below in excerpts.)
Capitol police said two women and one man were arrested and charged with causing a disruption in the public gallery of the Senate. The three started shouting when guest Chaplain Rajan Zed, a Hindu from Nevada, began his prayer.
They shouted "No Lord but Jesus Christ" and "There's only one true God," and used the term "abomination."
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Fri, July 13, 2007 - 4:57 AMNAMASTE
Christian Newswire's Version of Senate Protest
www.christiannewswire.com
WASHINGTON, D.C., July 12, 2007: (HPI note: Following is the report by the Christian Newswire on the Hindu prayer.) Ante Pavkovic, Kathy Pavkovic, and Kristen Sugar were all arrested in the chambers of the United States Senate as that chamber was violated by a false Hindu god. The Senate was opened with a Hindu prayer placing the false god of Hinduism on a level playing field with the One True God, Jesus Christ. This would never have been allowed by our Founding Fathers.
"Not one Senator had the backbone to stand as our Founding Fathers stood. They stood on the Gospel of Jesus Christ! There were three in the audience with the courage to stand and proclaim, 'Thou shalt have no other gods before me.' They were immediately removed from the chambers, arrested, and are in jail now. God bless those who stand for Jesus as we know that He stands for them." Rev. Flip Benham, Director, Operation Save America/Operation Rescue
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Fri, July 13, 2007 - 4:59 AMNAMASTE
There is alot i would love to say about the Christian news wire version but i think it says enough.
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Fri, July 13, 2007 - 5:00 AMNAMASTE
Americans United for Separation of Church and State" Deplore Disruption
www.commondreams.org
WASHINGTON, D.C., July 12, 2007: (HPI note: This is a press release.) Americans United for Separation of Church and State today deplored the disruption by Religious Right activists of a Hindu chaplain's prayer to open the U.S. Senate.
"This shows the intolerance of many Religious Right activists," said the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, Americans United executive director. "They say they want more religion in the public square, but it's clear they mean only their religion.
"America is a land of extraordinary religious diversity, and the Religious Right just can't seem to accept that fact," Lynn continued. "I don't think the Senate should open with prayers, but if it's going to happen, the invocations ought to reflect the diversity of the American people."
Religious Right groups have been agitating against the Hindu leader's prayer since it was announced. The Rev. Donald Wildmon's American Family Association has asked his members to complain to their senators about the invitation. The group's news service reported that "Christian nation" activist David Barton said that Hinduism has few followers in the United States (HPI note: There are two million Hindus in America) and that prayer to a "non-monotheistic god" is "outside the American paradigm."
Said AU's Lynn, "The Religious Right promotes a deeply skewed version of American history. Our founders wanted separation of church and state and full religious liberty for all faith traditions. The episode today shows we still have a ways to go to achieve that goal."
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Tue, July 24, 2007 - 7:43 AM"This would never have been allowed by our Founding Fathers.
Very true, they would not have. Allowing one to worship in the way they choose is vastly different that honoring non christian religions on the floor of the Senate. It was a disgrace. -
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Tue, July 24, 2007 - 7:56 PM"honoring non christian religions on the floor of the Senate" was the disgrace?
does that include the other Abrahamic religions too or do Jews and Muslims get the shaft as well, or just us poor misguided "idolators"? -
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Wed, July 25, 2007 - 4:33 PMthe disgrace, were those christian fundamentalists.
obviously uneducated, obviously uncultured and unfortunately steeped in ignorance.
i wonder if christ would have approved of their actions had he been there?
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Wed, July 25, 2007 - 4:37 PMthe sad thing is that even something as beautiful as Sanatana Dharma can be twisted in the same fashion, by the BJP, Shiv Sena etc... -
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Wed, July 25, 2007 - 5:01 PM"the sad thing is that even something as beautiful as Sanatana Dharma can be twisted in the same fashion"
Sadly true - Fundamentalism is a plague upon the modern world, the direct cause of more hatred, fear, strife, and violence than anything else. And it matters not in the slightest *which* religion is being taken literally and claimed as the One True Way - the end result is the same. The human race needs to grow up, achieve enough spiritual maturity to see that we are all one, that all faiths are valid reflections of the Spirit. We can honor the ancient traditions without abandoning reason and critical judgment - and without using them as a pretext for religious intolerance, oppression, and "holy" wars. -
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Wed, July 25, 2007 - 6:17 PMNAMASTE
Hindu Prayer in U.S. Senate Promotes Diversity
The American Jewish Committee is deeply troubled by the verbal assault on Rajan Zed, a Hindu religious leader who delivered the opening prayer on the Senate floor last week. "Senate Majority leader Harry Reid's invitation to Rajan Zed to become the first Hindu to deliver an opening prayer is a testament to our national commitment to promoting ideals of diversity in every facet of American society," said Richard T. Foltin, AJC's Legislative Director and Counsel.
Rajan Zed, who is the director of interfaith relations at a Hindu temple in Reno, Nevada, was interrupted by protesters in the Senate gallery who shouted hateful words during his prayer. Capitol police immediately removed the protesters. A morning prayer has been offered on the Senate floor every day for over 200 years. Although there is an in-house chaplain, guest prayer leaders have been a popular custom since 1857. This distinguished honor has been the place of many firsts in American history. The first African American delivered the prayer in 1965, the first woman in 1971, and the first Muslim in 1992.
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Wed, July 25, 2007 - 6:20 PMNAMASTE
Vishwa Hindu Parishad of America Statement on Hindu Prayer in Senate
www.vhp-america.org
USA, July 13, 2007: World Hindu Council of America (VHPA) is delighted that for the first time in its history, the U.S . Senate on July 12 was opened with a Hindu prayer said by a Hindu chaplain, Rajan Zed, a Hindu from Nevada. We express our gratitude and appreciation to all the Senate Leaders including Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, who were involved in providing an opportunity to the over 2 million Hindus in America to be represented in the US Senate.
VHPA joins the 2 million Hindus in America who are part of over a billion of the world's population, in applauding the US Senate and American Leadership in taking the steps that manifest the American principles of Life, Liberty, Pursuit of Happiness, Freedom of religion, etc. thereby respecting the religious diversity of our Great Nation.
Through this wonderful gesture of reaching out to the vibrant, hard-working, nationalistic, patriotic, peace-loving and deeply faithful Hindu community, the US Senate has touched a chord with this diverse Hindu population of USA which traces its origin to India and represents many other countries in the world.
In this time of turmoil in the world, the much needed Universal message of Peace, Harmony, "Omnipresence of the Almighty" and the need for resolve and wisdom to work together delivered by the Hindu chaplain was very appropriate.
In celebrating this historic event of July 12th in the US Senate we are reminded of our responsibility of raising awareness about Hinduism and its countless contributions over the last 5,000 years. We were profoundly saddened by the blatantly offensive and factually erroneous propaganda by the uninformed Christians that viciously condemned and denigrated Hindus, their faith and its contribution and the three miscreants who tried to disrupt this solemn and historic occasion
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Wed, July 25, 2007 - 6:21 PMNAMASTE
Hindu Student Council Statement on Hindu Prayer in Senate
www.hscnet.org
NEW JERSEY, USA, July 12, 2007: The Hindu Students Council commends the United States Senate today for creating history in having a Hindu priest lead the opening invocation of today's session. Such an event marks the profound diversity of religion in American civic life, and HSC compliments Sen. Harry Reid of Nevada for taking the courageous step of inviting Shri Rajan Zed to deliver the invocation as a guest Chaplain.
Unfortunately, the invocation was marred by three protesters who felt the need to display their intolerance for other religions and disrupt the opening prayer. These protesters, professing radical Christian beliefs, and those who support them fail to understand the premise of America, and why the First Amendment exists. Nikunj Trivedi, President of HSC, said "HSC considers awareness about Hinduism and religious diversity as part of its mission on campuses, and we are encouraged by the fact that not one Senator stood to support the protesters." HSC congratulates the Senate for taking such an important step today, and hopes that it will further continue to reinforce the idea that religious diversity is an important component in American civic life.
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Wed, July 25, 2007 - 6:23 PMNAMASTE
Hindu American Foundation Statement on Hindu Prayer in Senate
www.HAFsite.org
WASHINGTON, D.C., July 13, 2007: The Hindu American Foundation joins all Hindu Americans in celebrating the epochal events of July 12 in our community's history in the United States. Yesterday, the faith of 2 million American Hindus and nearly 1 billion of the world's population was represented in the chambers of the U.S. Senate for the first time. Shri Rajan Zed's prayer recitation shared with our fellow Americans the Hindu belief in a transcendental, immanent God and the eternal Hindu search for enlightenment and universal peace. Our foundation joins all Hindu Americans in congratulating the U.S. Senate for demonstrating its commitment to the American ideal of pluralism, and for respecting the religious diversity of our great country.
And while we celebrate yesterday's events, we cannot but be disappointed that a few miscreants misinformed about the Hindu faith, and its countless contributions, disrupted a significant and solemn occasion. Hindu Americans were troubled by the intolerant, exclusivist views of some evangelical groups that viciously condemned Hindus and their faith so publicly this week. However, our community is heartened and grateful that the Senate Majority Leader, Harry Reid, courageously spoke of his personal experiences with Hindu Americans and of the relevance of the pluralistic ideals personified by Mahatma Gandhi. We thank Senator Reid and all of those members of the U.S. Senate that made this historic moment possible, and reach out to our fellow Americans to join us in building a society based on the principles of tolerance, plurali sm and understanding."
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Tue, August 7, 2007 - 11:55 PMof course, the hilarious irony -- at least for me and maybe for others on this tribe -- is that Jesus himself is reputed, historically, to have traveled extensively in INDIA and learned from masters there, during his so-called "Lost Years." there are many scholarly works supporting this view of what happened to him between the ages of, say, 14 and 28.
so -- exactly -- I sincerely doubt that Jesus, the ultimate forgiving, loving, knowledge sublime divine character, would have had any problem at all with hearing a translation of the Upanishads read in the US Senate.
in fact, the word is that he's still around and knows exactly what's going on, today. no doubt he enjoyed the show.
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