Spiritual knowledge is very important in the search for self-realization, without that we do not have the first glimpses to start our journey to god-realization. Yet, LOVE is the propellant dynamo that impulses that knowledge to reach the goal.
The danger about knowledge is that, it should be used only as a right potion, until work starts. That is, just in the quantity enough that will lead us to start the journey for self-realization.
I have seen so many intelligent seekers whom know about all the spiritual issues. They can talk for hours about any guru, any spiritual path, and any line of realized master and so on...
They can explain all particularity differences between many kinds of Samadhi, Satore, Nirvana and so on. Nevertheless, they have not experienced any one of then.
That is why many realized masters use to incentive the disciple only meditate and pray to god to revealing himself.
God is the owner of all knowledge, and if you know him and become One with him, you will know not only about many spiritual theories, but about all that exists in this dream universe and also far, far beyond that.
That’s why at that time Jesus answered and said:
(Matthew 11:25)- I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
Be a babe does not mean be a full, means be fully surrendered to the god within. And for that reason that great master said also:
“Seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and ALL these things shall be added unto you." (Matthew 6:33)
ETERNAL PEACE :)
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Re: LOST IN KNOWLEDGE
Sun, March 30, 2008 - 7:59 AMMeditation is different from reflective reasoning. Reasoning is satisfied if it merely achieves a clear conception of things, whereas meditation seeks a direct perception of them. Reasoning is a function of the head, while meditation is a function of the heart, the abode of God. Rational conviction alone can never put an end to doubt and has no power to transform us. It cannot correct the imbalance between passion and reason, desire and dispassion. It cannot uproot our worldly propensities, the seeds of which can be destroyed only through meditation. Meditation integrates our countless discordant urges into the central goal of life, Self-Realization. Our desires, instincts, and impulses, like various musical instruments in an orchestra, are brought together in a grand symphony of unified rhythm and melody.
Meditation is more than contemplation. Contemplation is thinking about the Divine, but meditation is the spontaneous flow of the mind toward It. The contemplative state may be compared to a bee buzzing around a flower, about to alight on it and sip the nectar from it. The state of meditation is reached when the bee is already seated on the flower and has begun to taste the sweetness of the nectar.
Swami Adiswarananda
Ramakrishna-Vivekananda Center
New York
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Re: LOST IN KNOWLEDGE
Sun, March 30, 2008 - 9:15 AMerratum : Be a babe does not mean be a( full )
in lieu of full read( FOOL)
sry about my broken English.
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Re: LOST IN KNOWLEDGE
Sun, March 30, 2008 - 11:43 AMhi, Daniel,
it's absolutely true (I'm guessing this original quote came from Yogananda). knowledge is worthless unless it yields divine experience.
I live in California, in the USA, and encounter many people who have read many many books on spirituality and think they are experts about god and spiritual matters because they've read so many books and can quote the different saints. having a roomful of students who are convinced they are already experts is a real challenge!!!!!!!!!! *grinning*
to me, it's like the difference between reading a book about swimming, and actually swimming. so many people are interested in spirituality, yet they sit on the side of the pool, watching the other people splashing in the water, and are reading their nice books about what swimming feels like! this is a kind of soul crime, to me -- the only way to know about the process of swimming is to jump in the water. and so what, if you're not an expert when you first get in!!?
there is NO substitute for direct experience. we have to know god directly, taste the divine fragrance ourselves. THEN everything else follows.
my own master in India often talks about other saints, who are happy to sit in front of their students and eat a beautiful mango, all the time telling the students how sweet and fresh and tasty the mango is! (but not letting the students actually taste it themselves.) this is not at all fair -- !!!! a real teacher will give the mango to the students, so they really understand what it is.
Jesus was such a master. Ramakrishna was such a master. Shirdi Sai Baba was such a master. Yogananda was such a master.
the problem, of course, is that spirituality -- really tasting the mango and understanding its nature -- is challenging. not everyone wants to go that route, on the surface level.
but at the deep level, I believe every soul is longing for direct experience of itself as god.
Alx
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Re: LOST IN KNOWLEDGE
Sun, March 30, 2008 - 2:08 PMand, btw -- your English is just fine. people know what you mean if things are spelled a little funny.
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Re: LOST IN KNOWLEDGE
Sun, March 30, 2008 - 3:29 PMThat inner Self, eternal, ever effulgent, full and infinite Bliss, single, indivisible, whole and living, shines in everyone as the witnessing awareness. That self in its splendour, shining in the cavity of the heart…
This self is neither born nor dies, neither grows nor decays, nor does it suffer any change.
When a pot is broken, the space within it is not.
Similarly, when the body dies the Self in it remains eternal…
-----------------Ramana Maharshi---------------
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